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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Duncan Head on March 17, 2016, 08:52:01 AM

Title: Iron Age Arras Culture burials from Pocklington
Post by: Duncan Head on March 17, 2016, 08:52:01 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/mar/17/hugely-important-iron-age-remains-found-yorkshire-site
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3495506/Iron-Age-settlement-2-500-year-old-migrant-camp-Discovery-site-Yorkshire-international-significance.html
http://www.pocklingtonpost.co.uk/news/local/prehistoric-man-with-shield-found-after-dig-1-7234622

"2,500 years old", "Middle to Late Iron Age".

Rather surprisingly, the Mail has actually got quite a full and well-illustrated piece - though they did manage to get "migrant camp" into the headline!

Finds include swords, spears and a shield. The Pocklington Post article reckons that one of the photos, also on the Mail site, shows the skeleton on the shield; in which case, it looks like quite a broad shield with a metal rim, straight sides and curved top.
Title: Re: Iron Age Arras Culture burials from Pocklington
Post by: Patrick Waterson on March 17, 2016, 11:15:26 AM
The Daily Mail article shown the same photograph with a bit more detail, or at least coverage of the leg area, here (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3495506/Iron-Age-settlement-2-500-year-old-migrant-camp-Discovery-site-Yorkshire-international-significance.html).

If that is indeed a shield, it is one an Old Kingdom Egyptian infantryman could be proud of - a real body-screener, almost like a mantlet.
Title: Re: Iron Age Arras Culture burials from Pocklington
Post by: Erpingham on March 17, 2016, 03:46:25 PM
Quote from: Patrick Waterson on March 17, 2016, 11:15:26 AM

If that is indeed a shield, it is one an Old Kingdom Egyptian infantryman could be proud of - a real body-screener, almost like a mantlet.

It isn't clear how long it is.  If short, it might be like one of the square ones on the Certosa situla.

Title: Re: Iron Age Arras Culture burials from Pocklington
Post by: Patrick Waterson on March 17, 2016, 07:50:37 PM
Well, the rim encompasses an area from the neck to the thigh, and seems to extend yet further down (it gets unclear where the legs cross and there may be something more to find in that vicinity).  Judging by what we can see of the rim, it looks huge.  Unless it has been heavily distorted over the millennia (a possibility I do not rule out) it looks too large for a Certosa situla square type.

Would be interesting if it was derived from a similar concept or pattern, though.
Title: Re: Iron Age Arras Culture burials from Pocklington
Post by: Erpingham on March 18, 2016, 12:03:50 PM
Quote from: Patrick Waterson on March 17, 2016, 07:50:37 PM
Well, the rim encompasses an area from the neck to the thigh, and seems to extend yet further down (it gets unclear where the legs cross and there may be something more to find in that vicinity). 

The key bit is how far below the thigh it goes, which isn't clear from the photos. 
Title: Re: Iron Age Arras Culture burials from Pocklington
Post by: Patrick Waterson on March 18, 2016, 07:02:28 PM
Clear as mud, actually, which is more or less what it is buried in. :)

Still, the site as a whole looks like a major settlement and could be expected to yield more useful items.
Title: Re: Iron Age Arras Culture burials from Pocklington
Post by: Erpingham on March 18, 2016, 10:57:46 PM
Quote from: Patrick Waterson on March 18, 2016, 07:02:28 PM
Clear as mud, actually, which is more or less what it is buried in. :)

Still, the site as a whole looks like a major settlement and could be expected to yield more useful items.

I note the excavation is covered in next weeks "Digging for Britain", so could be interesting.
Title: Re: Iron Age Arras Culture burials from Pocklington
Post by: Patrick Waterson on March 19, 2016, 09:40:46 AM
The local paper's website is now giving us the first glimpse (http://www.pocklingtonpost.co.uk/news/first-look-at-rare-iron-age-finds-unearthed-in-pocklington-1-7802782) of the sword and spear head.  The sword has certainly seen better days ...

Quote from: Erpingham on March 18, 2016, 10:57:46 PM
I note the excavation is covered in next weeks "Digging for Britain", so could be interesting.

Hopefully we shall see at least as much of the weaponry as we do of the archaeologists!