In Østfold, in Norway:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/oct/15/viking-ship-burial-discovered-in-norway-just-50cm-underground
QuoteThere are no immediate plans for excavation, but further non-invasive research will map the remains and assess their condition.
One to look out for in the future, then.
Indeed. I wonder what 'non-invasive research' they will use.
C14 dating... (sorry could not resisit...)
possibly electrical resistance tomography as a more 'deep' survey than say standard resistivity
This report (http://www.medievalists.net/2018/10/viking-ship-discovered-under-the-ground-in-norway/) has more details and pictures.
amazing that it is only just beneath the soil surface
Quote from: Holly on October 23, 2018, 06:55:30 PM
amazing that it is only just beneath the soil surface
we have one field where the bronze age soil surface is quite literally just below the turf. In that top couple of inches you have two thousand years of 'modern' history :)
Quote from: Jim Webster on October 23, 2018, 09:59:30 PM
Quote from: Holly on October 23, 2018, 06:55:30 PM
amazing that it is only just beneath the soil surface
we have one field where the bronze age soil surface is quite literally just below the turf. In that top couple of inches you have two thousand years of 'modern' history :)
Just out of interest, would that be pasture rather than ploughland?
Quote from: Patrick Waterson on October 24, 2018, 05:58:35 AM
Quote from: Jim Webster on October 23, 2018, 09:59:30 PM
Quote from: Holly on October 23, 2018, 06:55:30 PM
amazing that it is only just beneath the soil surface
we have one field where the bronze age soil surface is quite literally just below the turf. In that top couple of inches you have two thousand years of 'modern' history :)
Just out of interest, would that be pasture rather than ploughland?
that field can never have been ploughed
Indeed you wouldn't plough it as all you'd do is bury the soil under a cap of clay
Shallow stratigraphy is IIRC correctly a common phenomenon with upland pasture. There have been sites in the downs where the archaeology consisted of lifting the turf and exposing what was cut in the chalk and I recall a field trip into the Yorkshire dales to see a long house excavation where the entire stratigraphy was 9"-1ft deep.
Quote from: Erpingham on October 24, 2018, 08:36:03 AM
Shallow stratigraphy is IIRC correctly a common phenomenon with upland pasture. There have been sites in the downs where the archaeology consisted of lifting the turf and exposing what was cut in the chalk and I recall a field trip into the Yorkshire dales to see a long house excavation where the entire stratigraphy was 9"-1ft deep.
we're the exact opposite, ours is what's left when the sea retreated at some time in the Bronze age. But ironically there are fields between that land and the sea which have deeper soil and have been ploughed
Mud/bog v. sandbar or gravel spit?
Quote from: Erpingham on October 24, 2018, 10:31:10 AM
Mud/bog v. sandbar or gravel spit?
I've hopefully attached a map.
The field was left when the tide went out. The sea is about 1000 yards to the right now
The old raised beaches are obvious. The ground between them is heavy clay, but there was, in the area marked blue, a freshwater lake and this filled in leaving quiet a thick layer of peat on top of some clay, on top of running sand!
On the field there are at least two burnt mounds (one excavated) and probably a third.
Further upstream there is an area of willow scrub which is probably a fair age as well
Interesting, Jim. I wonder what might be hiding in there. Not that I have any wish to foist archaeologists on you. :)
And thanks for the map: it does make things clear.
Quote from: Patrick Waterson on October 24, 2018, 07:40:39 PM
Interesting, Jim. I wonder what might be hiding in there. Not that I have any wish to foist archaeologists on you. :)
And thanks for the map: it does make things clear.
I found some big pieces of roman pottery down there, in the side of the short lane at the bottom left, they revealed as the dike eroded away
Off the map about two map lengths to the south a metal detectorist found a bronze horde, thought to be a smith's hoard, which included a beautiful javelin head and axe head.
But we're a long way from a university and it's not a fashionable area.
One lad did his degree thesis, Masters dissertation and his PhD on this area, including the burnt mound, but the bronze horde is later than that
Jim
really interesting stuff Jim. Its a bit like round where I live. We have a Roman road section right outside the house with a few associated finds dotted around. I've been meaning to do something like yours for a while now
Yes, it sounds as if both Dave and Jim could be sitting on a few finds.
I've even found stuff in the back garden.....some of it relatively recent (a clay pipe) and some old (pottery and an iron bloom).
Yes the house itself is pre-1600 and there are all sorts of minor mysteries
Such as why was there a Medlar tree in a hedge? It's died since, but it was a long way from any house so was unlikely to be part of a garden/orchard, but you just don't get Medlars up here
blimey, that is interesting Jim. A bit like us with our wild hop and grape vines growing in the hedgerows on a south facing slope
It raises questions :-)
My mother went to Hereford Teacher Training college after the war, but she denied planting it
According to wikipedia, Medlars are short lived - 30-50 years - which should help narrow it down. Though I don't know how well they self seed so far north.
It might have been one of my mother's college friends who did it, a lot of them were from the Bromyard, Hereford area
A bit to ask them as well :-[
I go through there on my way to work often :)
Quote from: Holly on October 25, 2018, 06:12:26 PM
I go through there on my way to work often :)
As a child I was down there on holiday most years, the friends tended to dump their kids on each other for summer 8)
very idyllic up that way :)
especially when you were a kid Jim ;D
Quote from: Holly on October 25, 2018, 07:19:18 PM
very idyllic up that way :)
well at the age of ten I loved it ;D
Quote from: Jim Webster on October 25, 2018, 07:20:34 PM
Quote from: Holly on October 25, 2018, 07:19:18 PM
very idyllic up that way :)
well at the age of ten I loved it ;D
and travelling by horse and cart must have been fun ::)
Quote from: Holly on October 25, 2018, 08:43:27 PM
Quote from: Jim Webster on October 25, 2018, 07:20:34 PM
Quote from: Holly on October 25, 2018, 07:19:18 PM
very idyllic up that way :)
well at the age of ten I loved it ;D
and travelling by horse and cart must have been fun ::)
we were that poor we'd eaten the horse
You were lucky you had a cart....... :)
Quote from: Holly on October 25, 2018, 10:01:07 PM
You were lucky you had a cart....... :)
it'd have been more use with wheels, and if we hadn't had to pull it ourselves ::)
Quote from: Jim Webster on October 25, 2018, 10:18:01 PM
it'd have been more use with wheels
No wonder the horse died! ;D
Are you all from Yorkshire?
Nay lad ;)
Quote from: Holly on October 26, 2018, 06:56:09 PM
Nay lad ;)
Pass the man some soap and water, he needs to wash his mouth out ;D