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Title: Indian elephants in non-Indian armies
Post by: Ade G on July 10, 2020, 09:00:28 PM
I have been looking to use some of the small groups of painted Hellenistic figures I have into a coherent army. I have two nice Indian elephants with Indian crews and some Xystophoroi cavalry plus lots of pelatsts and skirmishers. What armies could the Indian elephants be used in? I sort of run out of ideas after Kushan and Baktrian...
Title: Re: Indian elephants in non-Indian armies
Post by: Duncan Head on July 10, 2020, 11:41:50 PM
Eumenes' army at Paraitakene with the elephants Eudamos brought from India?
Title: Re: Indian elephants in non-Indian armies
Post by: Jim Webster on July 11, 2020, 05:34:51 AM
How about the army of Seleucus with the Elephants he brought from India?
Title: Re: Indian elephants in non-Indian armies
Post by: Nick Harbud on July 11, 2020, 08:33:55 AM
Swap the crews out and use them for the Southern Han elephant corps.

Failing that, sundry manufacturers produce separate elephant furniture that can be used to convert elephants between different nationalities/periods.
Title: Re: Indian elephants in non-Indian armies
Post by: simonw on July 11, 2020, 11:26:46 AM
Seleucids (reputedly; I don't know the source) at first just had a single pikeman or a couple of pikemen astride so this is easily fixed by swopping the Indian crew apart from the Mahout. Otherwise, the model can stay just the same.
Title: Re: Indian elephants in non-Indian armies
Post by: Ade G on July 11, 2020, 11:42:14 AM
All good ideas, thanks for taking the time - the elephant and crew are already painted and based so don't want to muck them about - Eumenes is a great shout as I like him and the campaigns. Fits the sort of "generic" look I am aiming for
Title: Re: Indian elephants in non-Indian armies
Post by: Mark G on July 12, 2020, 03:34:57 PM
There is also a Parthian army that had an Indian component.

Surenas is the name springing to mind, but I may have that wrong.

And light cab armies with cat and elephants are likely to be much less figured than any other.

And Bactrian Greek types too perhaps.
Title: Re: Indian elephants in non-Indian armies
Post by: Jim Webster on July 12, 2020, 05:05:31 PM
Quote from: Mark G on July 12, 2020, 03:34:57 PM
There is also a Parthian army that had an Indian component.

Surenas is the name springing to mind, but I may have that wrong.

And light cab armies with cat and elephants are likely to be much less figured than any other.

And Bactrian Greek types too perhaps.

Indo-Parthian

They appear as Suren Indo-Parthian in the DBMM Parthian army list
Title: Re: Indian elephants in non-Indian armies
Post by: Ade G on July 12, 2020, 09:48:06 PM
Quote from: Jim Webster on July 12, 2020, 05:05:31 PM
Quote from: Mark G on July 12, 2020, 03:34:57 PM
There is also a Parthian army that had an Indian component.

Surenas is the name springing to mind, but I may have that wrong.

And light cab armies with cat and elephants are likely to be much less figured than any other.

And Bactrian Greek types too perhaps.

Indo-Parthian

They appear as Suren Indo-Parthian in the DBMM Parthian army list

I used the Suren Indo-Parthian under DBM! I play ADLG at the moment and Kushan is interesting if not world-beating. I had not considered Alexandrian Imperial until now...