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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Dangun on May 13, 2020, 04:46:18 AM

Title: Norman Invasion of Sicily
Post by: Dangun on May 13, 2020, 04:46:18 AM
I thought this article would appeal to some people.
Its pretty focussed on the violence  :)

https://www.academia.edu/2401443/_The_Norman_invasion_of_Sicily_1061-1072_Numbers_and_Military_Tactics_War_in_History_17_2010_pp._381-402?email_work_card=view-paper (https://www.academia.edu/2401443/_The_Norman_invasion_of_Sicily_1061-1072_Numbers_and_Military_Tactics_War_in_History_17_2010_pp._381-402?email_work_card=view-paper)
Title: Re: Norman Invasion of Sicily
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 13, 2020, 08:46:59 AM
thanks, a specific period of history I do like. The seminal book on the subject for me is https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/9780571340231?gC=5a105e8b&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_tqGnKyw6QIVgu3tCh268gzoEAQYAiABEgImbPD_BwE (https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/9780571340231?gC=5a105e8b&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_tqGnKyw6QIVgu3tCh268gzoEAQYAiABEgImbPD_BwE). well worth a read as well
Title: Re: Norman Invasion of Sicily
Post by: Erpingham on May 13, 2020, 08:49:05 AM
Quote from: Holly on May 13, 2020, 08:46:59 AM
thanks, a specific period of history I do like. The seminal book on the subject for me is https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/9780571340231?gC=5a105e8b&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_tqGnKyw6QIVgu3tCh268gzoEAQYAiABEgImbPD_BwE (https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/9780571340231?gC=5a105e8b&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_tqGnKyw6QIVgu3tCh268gzoEAQYAiABEgImbPD_BwE). well worth a read as well

Actually Dave, it's The Normans in the South, the first volume, that covers the invasion.
Title: Re: Norman Invasion of Sicily
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 13, 2020, 09:27:39 AM
very true....! :-[
Title: Re: Norman Invasion of Sicily
Post by: Erpingham on May 13, 2020, 09:58:19 AM
It is worth looking at Georgios Theotokis' entry on Academia

https://ibnhaldun.academia.edu/GeorgiosTheotokis

He's quite prolific around the Normans in the South and Byzantium.  He also has some interesting books on the way.
Title: Re: Norman Invasion of Sicily
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 13, 2020, 10:09:20 AM
oh no....more stuff to earmark and download  ;D
Title: Re: Norman Invasion of Sicily
Post by: aligern on May 13, 2020, 10:37:57 AM
IMO the war with the Normans ( and Venetians) destroyed the Byzantine Empire before the Crusade of 1204. They managed a run of incompetent emperors  and exhausting wars that exposed them to an attack that forty years before would never  have been attempted.
Roy
Title: Re: Norman Invasion of Sicily
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 13, 2020, 12:46:02 PM
quite right to point out Roy. Alot of people point to Manzikert as the beginning of the end for the BE and 1204 as the death knell but the war in Italy/Sicily accelerated it
Title: Re: Norman Invasion of Sicily
Post by: Erpingham on May 13, 2020, 12:50:01 PM
Quote from: Holly on May 13, 2020, 12:46:02 PM
quite right to point out Roy. Alot of people point to Manzikert as the beginning of the end for the BE and 1204 as the death knell but the war in Italy/Sicily accelerated it

And, of course, the Norman expansion across the Adriatic.
Title: Re: Norman Invasion of Sicily
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 13, 2020, 12:50:43 PM
Quote from: Erpingham on May 13, 2020, 12:50:01 PM
Quote from: Holly on May 13, 2020, 12:46:02 PM
quite right to point out Roy. Alot of people point to Manzikert as the beginning of the end for the BE and 1204 as the death knell but the war in Italy/Sicily accelerated it

And, of course, the Norman expansion across the Adriatic.

pesky Normans!