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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Imperial Dave on December 06, 2016, 11:11:45 AM

Title: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Imperial Dave on December 06, 2016, 11:11:45 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-38008546

missed this one first time around and very intriguing concept of multi building phases
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Andreas Johansson on December 06, 2016, 03:07:36 PM
I recall reading about similar "Russian doll" pyramids at Maya cites back in ca 2000, so it's not "new" as in unprecedented (tho it's presumably news as regarding this particular edifice); I believe there's one at Copán frex. One suspects it was common practice among the Maya.

It makes a good deal of sense - unlike Egyptian pyramids, which were funereal monuments to particular pharaohs who only died once, these were temple platforms that remained in use, and must have needed maintenance now and then. Enlarging it occasionally would be the equivalent of rebuilding a church of mosque in a grander style.
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Imperial Dave on December 06, 2016, 06:05:50 PM
makes sense from that perspective Andreas, if its a continual use building....not entirely dissimilar to Stonehenge in that respect
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Patrick Waterson on December 06, 2016, 06:44:50 PM
And as the city or empire gets larger, it makes sense to use the previous temple as the foundation for the new one - saves a lot of effort and material!
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Imperial Dave on December 06, 2016, 07:44:01 PM
early recycling policy Patrick  :)
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Andreas Johansson on December 07, 2016, 11:43:29 AM
Quote from: Andreas Johansson on December 06, 2016, 03:07:36 PM
Maya cites
I wonder whether I meant two write "Maya sites" or "Maya cities".
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Patrick Waterson on December 07, 2016, 12:18:02 PM
Or perhaps a novel inclusiform designation covering both contingencies - as with 'two write' when the options are more than one but not as many as three.

Interesting processing patterns.
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Jim Webster on December 08, 2016, 12:34:45 PM
Quote from: Holly on December 06, 2016, 07:44:01 PM
early recycling policy Patrick  :)

I suspect that rather than early recycling policy, recycling has been the norm and it's a post war generation that broke away from it. After all I remember the rag and bone men going round with their carts. They could make a living recycling rags and bones in the 1960s  ;D
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Imperial Dave on December 08, 2016, 06:40:52 PM
too true Jim. Mend and make do has disappeared somewhat with this generation alas
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: gavindbm on December 08, 2016, 07:11:58 PM
I am sure the same nesting applies to Mexica / Aztec Temples - definitely remember cut away diagrams showing such nesting for Tenochtitlan.
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Jim Webster on December 08, 2016, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: Holly on December 08, 2016, 06:40:52 PM
too true Jim. Mend and make do has disappeared somewhat with this generation alas

Some of us remember the CC41 Utility mark on blankets and clothing  ;)

Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Imperial Dave on December 08, 2016, 09:25:24 PM
whoosh....straight over my head  ;D
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Jim Webster on December 08, 2016, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: Holly on December 08, 2016, 09:25:24 PM
whoosh....straight over my head  ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CC41
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Imperial Dave on December 08, 2016, 10:07:00 PM
thanks Jim, I am enriched for that knowledge and thankful I didnt have to endure any utility clothing  ;D
Title: Re: Mayan 'nesting' pyramid discovered inside existing Mexican pyramid
Post by: Jim Webster on December 09, 2016, 06:15:17 AM
Quote from: Holly on December 08, 2016, 10:07:00 PM
thanks Jim, I am enriched for that knowledge and thankful I didnt have to endure any utility clothing  ;D

I mainly remember it from the blankets which seem to have lasted for years  8)