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Title: Another facial reconstruction....and the most disturbing back story
Post by: Imperial Dave on February 17, 2017, 07:59:40 PM
http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/index.php/archives/02/2017/facial-reconstruction-of-pictish-man-brutally-murdered-1400-years-ago

Superb reconstruction but its the back story that got my attention
Title: Re: Another facial reconstruction....and the most disturbing back story
Post by: Patrick Waterson on February 17, 2017, 08:52:51 PM
A blow to each side of the face with a heavy stick or cudgel followed by a coup de grace delivered with extreme prejudice ... do you get the impression someone did not like him?
Title: Re: Another facial reconstruction....and the most disturbing back story
Post by: Imperial Dave on February 17, 2017, 09:03:53 PM
extremely violent and premeditated even for that period in history.....very graphic reconstruction
Title: Re: Another facial reconstruction....and the most disturbing back story
Post by: Erpingham on February 18, 2017, 08:56:44 AM
Quote from: Patrick Waterson on February 17, 2017, 08:52:51 PM
A blow to each side of the face with a heavy stick or cudgel followed by a coup de grace delivered with extreme prejudice ... do you get the impression someone did not like him?

What the weapon was is an interesting question if the fourth blow with it "was driven through his skull from one side and out the other as he lay on the ground." 
Title: Re: Another facial reconstruction....and the most disturbing back story
Post by: Patrick Waterson on February 18, 2017, 10:56:38 AM
Quote from: Erpingham on February 18, 2017, 08:56:44 AM
What the weapon was is an interesting question if the fourth blow with it "was driven through his skull from one side and out the other as he lay on the ground." 

Yes, I too had a hard time envisaging this particular blow as a sideways stroke from a heavy stick.  If however the writer means the end of a quarterstaff smashed through from one side of the head to the other while the victim lay on the ground with head to one side following the fall, that might bring it within the realm of possibilities.
Title: Re: Another facial reconstruction....and the most disturbing back story
Post by: Imperial Dave on February 18, 2017, 11:04:04 AM
although an even more intriguing question is....why the fifth blow if the 4th was so...erm.....devastating?!
Title: Re: Another facial reconstruction....and the most disturbing back story
Post by: Patrick Waterson on February 18, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
Perhaps some people just do not know when to stop ...
Title: Re: Another facial reconstruction....and the most disturbing back story
Post by: Imperial Dave on February 18, 2017, 11:12:26 AM
the ancient equivalent of 'getting your gun off' ?  :o
Title: Re: Another facial reconstruction....and the most disturbing back story
Post by: Patrick Waterson on February 18, 2017, 11:54:59 AM
Accidental discharge, maybe. ;)

The fifth wound was inflicted "where a hole, larger than that caused by the previous weapon, was made in the top of the skull."  We might conjecture that a club or cudgel was used for this, but a 'golfer's swipe' with a quarterstaff against the crown of the head of the recumbent now-corpse could have done it.