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Title: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Imperial Dave on September 07, 2020, 03:09:33 PM
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/09/warrior-skeletons-reveal-bronze-age-europeans-couldn-t-drink-milk

massively useful findings especially in the context of genetics and migration theory
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Jim Webster on September 07, 2020, 04:15:47 PM
Quote from: Holly on September 07, 2020, 03:09:33 PM
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/09/warrior-skeletons-reveal-bronze-age-europeans-couldn-t-drink-milk

massively useful findings especially in the context of genetics and migration theory

intriguing
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Ade G on September 07, 2020, 05:21:56 PM
The last line is a bit strange - you don't "need" to drink cow's milk...
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Imperial Dave on September 07, 2020, 07:41:16 PM
indeed and even now quite a few people are lactose intolerant
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Jim Webster on September 07, 2020, 08:09:15 PM
Quote from: Holly on September 07, 2020, 07:41:16 PM
indeed and even now quite a few people are lactose intolerant

figures vary depending on average age and ethnic group but apparently the figure in the UK is about 16%
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Imperial Dave on September 07, 2020, 09:15:06 PM
Quote from: Jim Webster on September 07, 2020, 08:09:15 PM
Quote from: Holly on September 07, 2020, 07:41:16 PM
indeed and even now quite a few people are lactose intolerant

figures vary depending on average age and ethnic group but apparently the figure in the UK is about 16%

I'm one of them......
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Nick Harbud on September 08, 2020, 09:12:43 AM
You will just have to stick to the beer, Dave.
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Imperial Dave on September 08, 2020, 09:35:29 AM
true Nick although I buy Arla so all is good. If I had to drink coffee with soya milk I think I would have a massive strop
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Erpingham on September 08, 2020, 10:00:04 AM
Bad luck on the lactose intolerance Dave.  No.2 daughter also has this, fortunately quite mildly, but it is a pain.

On the question of milk, is the advantage drinking it or having a useful nutritious ingredient?  I drink virtually no milk as milk.  I mix it into other drinks, mix it with grains, nuts and seeds, boil it with oats and consumme lots of it processed into spreads and solids.  Given the difficulty of preserving and carrying milk about, cooking, butter and cheese making may have been the real draw of milk.

   
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Justin Swanton on September 08, 2020, 10:50:13 AM
Quote from: Holly on September 07, 2020, 03:09:33 PM
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/09/warrior-skeletons-reveal-bronze-age-europeans-couldn-t-drink-milk

massively useful findings especially in the context of genetics and migration theory

So that's why they invented mead halls.
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Anton on September 08, 2020, 11:43:19 AM
Lactose persistence is great asset for peoples on the move.  Your food can travel with you on its own steam.  As long as you can secure grazing you are in business.  If you have mixed livestock of goats, sheep and cattle your options are even greater.
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Imperial Dave on September 08, 2020, 12:48:00 PM
Quote from: Erpingham on September 08, 2020, 10:00:04 AM
Bad luck on the lactose intolerance Dave.  No.2 daughter also has this, fortunately quite mildly, but it is a pain.


yes the odd bought of cramps when not careful but even small amounts leads to be blaming the dogs for misdemeanours...... 
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Erpingham on September 08, 2020, 12:56:41 PM
Quote from: Holly on September 08, 2020, 12:48:00 PM
Quote from: Erpingham on September 08, 2020, 10:00:04 AM
Bad luck on the lactose intolerance Dave.  No.2 daughter also has this, fortunately quite mildly, but it is a pain.


yes the odd bought of cramps when not careful but even small amounts leads to be blaming the dogs for misdemeanours......

Somehow familiar.

"Molly!"
"It was the cat!"
"It was not the cat"

:)


Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Imperial Dave on September 08, 2020, 01:27:53 PM
although a dog has a much bigger impact.......!
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Mark G on September 08, 2020, 06:11:22 PM
Some things in life you only do once.

Giving house kept dogs tripe is top of the list.
Title: Re: Warrior skeletons reveal Bronze Age Europeans couldn’t drink milk
Post by: Imperial Dave on September 08, 2020, 07:05:13 PM
Quote from: Mark G on September 08, 2020, 06:11:22 PM
Some things in life you only do once.

Giving house kept dogs tripe is top of the list.

try brussels sprouts!