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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: DBS on May 11, 2021, 05:33:36 PM

Title: Possible Vesuvius rescuer identified
Post by: DBS on May 11, 2021, 05:33:36 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57055163

Suggestions that one of the Herculaneum skeletons is an engineer or senior officer (archaeologists arguing for both...) from Pliny's fleet.
Title: Re: Possible Vesuvius rescuer identified
Post by: Duncan Head on May 11, 2021, 05:42:35 PM
If he's a rescuer, why has he gone into the town carrying his carpentry toolbag? I always thought it seemed likely that he was trying to get away, and that he'd grabbed his savings and his valuable tools on the way.
Title: Re: Possible Vesuvius rescuer identified
Post by: DBS on May 11, 2021, 05:49:44 PM
Indeed - and as I say, claiming he is a senior officer, because he has a full purse, but also an engineer.  Hmmm.

I am just waiting for one of the archaeologists to mutter, "He might even be Pliny the Elder.  I am incidentally available for speculative and overdramatised TV documentaries and please make project funding cheques payable to..."
Title: Re: Possible Vesuvius rescuer identified
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 11, 2021, 05:58:13 PM
still a nice little discovery  :)
Title: Re: Possible Vesuvius rescuer identified
Post by: Swampster on May 11, 2021, 09:10:01 PM
Quote from: Duncan Head on May 11, 2021, 05:42:35 PM
If he's a rescuer, why has he gone into the town carrying his carpentry toolbag? I always thought it seemed likely that he was trying to get away, and that he'd grabbed his savings and his valuable tools on the way.
Perhaps worried that there will be collapses or needing to cut away other boats to get access to the pier?
I'm more intrigued by the mix of tools and fancy sword. I'm inclined to think this also points to an officer pitching in with the rescue than an escaping carpenter.
Title: Re: Possible Vesuvius rescuer identified
Post by: Chuck the Grey on May 12, 2021, 02:44:07 AM
Might he have been a retired soldier fleeing the disaster? That would explain the sword. He might have been working as a craftsman in retirement. That would explain the bag of tools. If he was frugal, that explains the amount of money.

Of course he could have been a looter and karma caught up with him.
Title: Re: Possible Vesuvius rescuer identified
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 12, 2021, 08:09:22 AM
household slave told to take the valuables to the beach?
Title: Re: Possible Vesuvius rescuer identified
Post by: Erpingham on May 12, 2021, 08:31:54 AM
Quote from: Holly on May 12, 2021, 08:09:22 AM
household slave told to take the valuables to the beach?

And take his master's best dress sword for protection?
Title: Re: Possible Vesuvius rescuer identified
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 12, 2021, 09:25:26 AM
why not? a sword for parade and a sword for everyday? or did he just load him up with heirlooms and cash and told him to get them away from the town