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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Imperial Dave on April 28, 2023, 06:22:15 PM

Title: Viking study
Post by: Imperial Dave on April 28, 2023, 06:22:15 PM
https://www.science.org/content/article/viking-was-job-description-not-matter-heredity-massive-ancient-dna-study-shows?utm_medium=ownedSocial&utm_campaign=NewsfromScience&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR352vSsy6m9qHEpILBllI2aknjTDzyNDlaxV-Cj5vEVY51JBTanmXKOhpU

let's all go a-viking!
Title: Re: Viking study
Post by: Erpingham on April 28, 2023, 07:33:18 PM
Viking is a complicated term, because it means different things to the people who coined it than it does now.  A viking was a person who went a-viking.  When this person was doing something else, he wasn't a viking.  He might be a farmer, or a craftsman.  We, however, adopt as a historical convenience a Viking Age, in which a culture originating in Scandinavia spread and had all sorts of impacts in northern Europe and beyond.  A viking comes to mean a person from that culture.  I would suggest this study doesn't affirm viking as a job description but that that viking culture assimilated people of different ethnicities it interacted with.
Title: Re: Viking study
Post by: Imperial Dave on April 28, 2023, 08:30:33 PM
its a bit like 'Saxon' covers multitude of sins...literally
Title: Re: Viking study
Post by: Anton on April 29, 2023, 02:13:51 PM
Black Danes was an Irish description, hair colour of course.

I think Saxon caught on as an insular description because they were the first incoming people encountered by the insular Celts.  I'm quite sure the latter could differentiate between Angles, Jutes and Saxons.
Title: Re: Viking study
Post by: Imperial Dave on April 29, 2023, 02:18:52 PM
true but I believe rightly or wrongly that Saxon meant 'freebooter' or 'pirate'
Title: Re: Viking study
Post by: Anton on April 29, 2023, 03:26:14 PM
Yeah, saw that.  I'm not minded in that direction.  Ethnic/tribal designation for me.  I think you are right about Gildas btw.  That's off topic for Vikings.
Title: Re: Viking study
Post by: Imperial Dave on April 29, 2023, 04:19:05 PM
 ;D