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Title: 2,000-year-old curry found in Vietnam
Post by: Duncan Head on July 21, 2023, 10:16:52 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/22/2000-year-old-curry-scientists-discover-evidence-of-ancient-recipe-in-south-east-asia

Grinding tools with traces of spices found at Óc Eo in ancient Funan.
Title: Re: 2,000-year-old curry found in Vietnam
Post by: Imperial Dave on July 22, 2023, 07:48:52 AM
It's mine. I ordered it ages ago but never showed up!
Title: Re: 2,000-year-old curry found in Vietnam
Post by: Nick Harbud on July 22, 2023, 11:30:10 AM
It does not surprise me.  They were probably looking for new weapons to try out on their foes.  In this part of southeast asian the local cuisine has long been weaponised.  Some of the more powerful chilis are known to cause temporary deafness (https://www.foxnews.com/health/chef-temporarily-lost-hearing-after-eating-spicy-meal-heres-what-happened) and the early morning afterburner can be truly debilitating.

:-[
Title: Re: 2,000-year-old curry found in Vietnam
Post by: Imperial Dave on July 22, 2023, 01:42:43 PM
The vaal ambush
Title: Re: 2,000-year-old curry found in Vietnam
Post by: Mark G on July 22, 2023, 06:23:39 PM
Was it red Thai or green Thai?
Title: Re: 2,000-year-old curry found in Vietnam
Post by: Duncan Head on July 22, 2023, 08:47:20 PM
Quote from: Mark G on July 22, 2023, 06:23:39 PMWas it red Thai or green Thai?
Red Thai at night...

Actually no chillies (nor I think any hot pepper), so neither. Óc Eo and Funan would (probably) be proto-Khmer, and I gather that Khmer cuisine uses less chilli but is fond of galangal and turmeric, which fits the spices found.
Title: Re: 2,000-year-old curry found in Vietnam
Post by: Mark G on July 22, 2023, 10:00:04 PM
Mmmm galangal and turmeric.

Title: Re: 2,000-year-old curry found in Vietnam
Post by: Imperial Dave on July 23, 2023, 07:15:38 AM
turmeric especially
Title: Re: 2,000-year-old curry found in Vietnam
Post by: Nick Harbud on July 23, 2023, 09:24:17 AM
Certainly modern day Vietnamese and Cambodian cuisine is nowhere near as hot as that from Thailand.  This may explain why Thais successfully pushed out other regimes from the Khorat plateau.

 ???
Title: Re: 2,000-year-old curry found in Vietnam
Post by: Imperial Dave on July 23, 2023, 09:28:42 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: 2,000-year-old curry found in Vietnam
Post by: Erpingham on July 23, 2023, 10:42:27 AM
It would be surprising to find 2000 year old chillies in Vietnam.