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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: DBS on October 25, 2023, 01:05:28 PM

Title: 14th C portolan chart
Post by: DBS on October 25, 2023, 01:05:28 PM
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-10-25/map-dealer-discovers-14th-century-portolan-chart-getty-estate-sale

One for the medievalists...

Shame though that Mr Clausen does  not realise (or has been misreported) that Ptolemy equals the Greek (well, Macedonian) dynasty that once ruled Egypt.
Title: Re: 14th C portolan chart
Post by: Jon Freitag on October 25, 2023, 01:15:27 PM
If the map fetches what is asked, this will yield a handsome ROI.  One wonders how this rare artifact could be so misappraised.
Title: Re: 14th C portolan chart
Post by: Duncan Head on October 25, 2023, 02:49:54 PM
Quote from: DBS on October 25, 2023, 01:05:28 PMShame though that Mr Clausen does  not realise (or has been misreported) that Ptolemy equals the Greek (well, Macedonian) dynasty that once ruled Egypt.

Well, no. Claudius Ptolemy the geographer lived in the 2nd century AD, and when "Clausen believes the chart's author conflated Ptolemy with a dynasty of Greek kings who had ruled Egypt", I'd say he was quite correct: Ptolemy the map-maker is not the same as the Ptolemaic dynasty.
Title: Re: 14th C portolan chart
Post by: DBS on October 25, 2023, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: Duncan Head on October 25, 2023, 02:49:54 PM
Quote from: DBS on October 25, 2023, 01:05:28 PMShame though that Mr Clausen does  not realise (or has been misreported) that Ptolemy equals the Greek (well, Macedonian) dynasty that once ruled Egypt.

Well, no. Claudius Ptolemy the geographer lived in the 2nd century AD, and when "Clausen believes the chart's author conflated Ptolemy with a dynasty of Greek kings who had ruled Egypt", I'd say he was quite correct: Ptolemy the map-maker is not the same as the Ptolemaic dynasty.
Good point, well made, obviously read too hastily (coffee break in office) and missed the reference to Claudius P!
Title: Re: 14th C portolan chart
Post by: Ian61 on October 25, 2023, 11:08:06 PM
There are several good quality pictures on the website if you follow the link and search 1360 will land you on the right page.