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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Imperial Dave on December 30, 2023, 07:05:20 AM

Title: Ravenser Odd
Post by: Imperial Dave on December 30, 2023, 07:05:20 AM
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/ravenser-odd-0020137

Not heard of it until now...
Title: Re: Ravenser Odd
Post by: Jim Webster on December 30, 2023, 09:27:24 AM
"That is because the coasts of southeastern England, particularly those in Yorkshire, "

Is this a case of spot the deliberate mistake, or are they merely trying to provoke war  :)

Interesting article though and probably not an uncommon tale in coastal communities
Title: Re: Ravenser Odd
Post by: Erpingham on December 30, 2023, 10:54:14 AM
Quote from: Jim Webster on December 30, 2023, 09:27:24 AM"That is because the coasts of southeastern England, particularly those in Yorkshire, "

Is this a case of spot the deliberate mistake, or are they merely trying to provoke war  :)

Interesting article though and probably not an uncommon tale in coastal communities

I note the author seems to be Eastern European, so may be forgiven slip ups in English geography. But I only live in Yorkshire - it may be a cause of war to a native tyke  :)

As you say, a not uncommon tale - Dunwich is a classic example but Old Winchelsea was swept away by a storm and had to be rebuilt inland.

Ravenser Odd should not be confused, incidentally, with the port of Ravensburn/Ravenspurn, which was a few miles away and now lost. The latter port was the starting point for two attempts to seize the crown, by Henry IV and Edward IV.

Finally, found this online, which shows how much of Yorkshire has disappeared.

(https://i-yorkshire.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/holderness1.gif)
Title: Re: Ravenser Odd
Post by: Imperial Dave on December 30, 2023, 11:01:32 AM
Good find that man! Very interesting map indeed
Title: Re: Ravenser Odd
Post by: Jim Webster on December 30, 2023, 01:32:41 PM
Thanks for that, fascinating map. Even here on the west coast there are tales of parts of villages washed away
Title: Re: Ravenser Odd
Post by: Imperial Dave on December 30, 2023, 04:13:37 PM
And quite a bit of archaeology in the process
Title: Re: Ravenser Odd
Post by: DBS on December 31, 2023, 11:02:13 AM
Quote from: Erpingham on December 30, 2023, 10:54:14 AMBut I only live in Yorkshire - it may be a cause of war to a native tyke  :)
A good friend of mine lives in Flamborough, and trust me, she would find it incendiary.  Though she would probably rationalise the mistake as having originally meant the "south-east coast of Yorkshire"...

Excellent little map, Anthony.  Have sent it to her as she is a teacher and sometimes does odd diversionary classes on local topics - just before Christmas, sent her some stuff I had on the WW2 anti-invasion defences near Scarborough as that was her chosen odd topic, having finished Macbeth a week early...
Title: Re: Ravenser Odd
Post by: Imperial Dave on December 31, 2023, 11:46:52 AM
It's a reminder of summer holidays in the 70s
Title: Re: Ravenser Odd
Post by: Keraunos on December 31, 2023, 11:04:46 PM
Fascinating.  I lived for a little while in Great Driffield but wonder why it is on the map when not on or near the coast?
Title: Re: Ravenser Odd
Post by: Nick Harbud on January 01, 2024, 09:55:16 AM
Wait a while and it will be.
Title: Re: Ravenser Odd
Post by: Erpingham on January 01, 2024, 10:04:57 AM
Quote from: Keraunos on December 31, 2023, 11:04:46 PMFascinating.  I lived for a little while in Great Driffield but wonder why it is on the map when not on or near the coast?
Great Driffield is on the edge of the Wolds. Having looked up the original article, this means that, in pre-Glacial times, it would have been on the coast.
Title: Re: Ravenser Odd
Post by: Keraunos on January 01, 2024, 10:09:18 AM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Ravenser Odd
Post by: Imperial Dave on January 01, 2024, 11:04:57 AM
Quote from: Nick Harbud on January 01, 2024, 09:55:16 AMWait a while and it will be.


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