https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjje132jvygo
Howzat?
Quote from: Imperial Dave on May 03, 2024, 05:33:16 PMHowzat?
Won't need to explain to Justin but for Jon. "Howzat!" is a cry of triumph when a wicket falls at cricket. "Howzat?" or "Howizee?" is the question a bowler asks/screams at the umpire if he thinks he has taken a wicket. This is known as "enquiring of the umpire" or "asking the question". For maximum spectator enjoyment, the bowler must by supported in an impassioned scream by baying team mates and the umpire must stand impassive and give the barest shake of the head.
This find helps reinforce the theory that the emperor Severus and his family stayed at Carlisle while destroying the Caledonians.
Richard
A very good possibility
Also interesting because the purple actually looks... purple. I simply mean that sometimes there are suggestions that Tyrian purple may not have always been a shade that we would now automatically class as purple.
Quote from: Erpingham on May 03, 2024, 05:56:07 PMQuote from: Imperial Dave on May 03, 2024, 05:33:16 PMHowzat?
Won't need to explain to Justin but for Jon. "Howzat!" is a cry of triumph when a wicket falls at cricket. "Howzat?" or "Howizee?" is the question a bowler asks/screams at the umpire if he thinks he has taken a wicket. This is known as "enquiring of the umpire" or "asking the question". For maximum spectator enjoyment, the bowler must by supported in an impassioned scream by baying team mates and the umpire must stand impassive and give the barest shake of the head.
Seems I am in dire need of remedial re-education in British colloquialisms and idioms.
Quote from: DBS on May 03, 2024, 10:16:40 PMAlso interesting because the purple actually looks... purple. I simply mean that sometimes there are suggestions that Tyrian purple may not have always been a shade that we would now automatically class as purple.
I did think that myself!
Quote from: Imperial Dave on May 04, 2024, 06:31:57 AMQuote from: DBS on May 03, 2024, 10:16:40 PMAlso interesting because the purple actually looks... purple. I simply mean that sometimes there are suggestions that Tyrian purple may not have always been a shade that we would now automatically class as purple.
I did think that myself!
I think you are both right in that we know the shade is dependant on the species and precise details of manufacture. I watched a video some time ago about a chap (I am sure it was Tunisia) who had heard about this in school as 'local history' and decided to try it for himself. He got some deep colours which he used to dye some wool but not the wonderful purple we are looking at on that BBC article - that is very purple'. The Wikipedia article on Tyrian purple shows other examples from different species. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrian_purple#/media/File:Purple_Purpur_(retouched).jpg
Quote from: Jon Freitag on May 04, 2024, 12:34:02 AMSeems I am in dire need of remedial re-education in British colloquialisms and idioms.
Not at all. But I believe that understanding cricket is something that many Americans say they struggle with, so I thought I'd help out :)
Quote from: Erpingham on May 04, 2024, 10:43:24 AMQuote from: Jon Freitag on May 04, 2024, 12:34:02 AMSeems I am in dire need of remedial re-education in British colloquialisms and idioms.
Not at all. But I believe that understanding cricket is something that many Americans say they struggle with, so I thought I'd help out :)
Apparently cricket used to be relatively popular in the US before the Civil War. Apparently during the civil war, it was easier for soldiers to improvise a pitch for rounders, evolving into Baseball, than it was to find somewhere suitable for cricket.
And of course the difference between pink and purple is apparently your grip.....?
Quote from: Ian61 on May 04, 2024, 08:35:53 AMQuote from: Imperial Dave on May 04, 2024, 06:31:57 AMQuote from: DBS on May 03, 2024, 10:16:40 PMAlso interesting because the purple actually looks... purple. I simply mean that sometimes there are suggestions that Tyrian purple may not have always been a shade that we would now automatically class as purple.
I did think that myself!
I think you are both right in that we know the shade is dependant on the species and precise details of manufacture. I watched a video some time ago about a chap (I am sure it was Tunisia) who had heard about this in school as 'local history' and decided to try it for himself. He got some deep colours which he used to dye some wool but not the wonderful purple we are looking at on that BBC article - that is very purple'. The Wikipedia article on Tyrian purple shows other examples from different species. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrian_purple#/media/File:Purple_Purpur_(retouched).jpg
I can confirm Ian's recollections of the Tunisian chap extracting purple from Murex. The aspect that I remember most was that the man, his workspace and everything about and around him was indelibly stained 'purple'. Definitely a job for the enslaved workforce in antiquity.
Adrian.