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Title: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: DBS on May 03, 2024, 10:17:58 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/03/leprosy-passed-between-medieval-squirrels-and-humans-study-suggests

Little beggars!
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 04, 2024, 06:34:38 AM
Back to the green monkey theory....! :o
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Ian61 on May 04, 2024, 08:45:53 AM
Good find.
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Nick Harbud on May 04, 2024, 10:06:08 AM
Of course, the concept of squirrels being a disease vector is not so strange once one realises that they are closely related to rats, notorious spreaders of bubonic plague and other complaints.

Do we think that the displacement of red squirrels by invasive grey squirrels has had the benefit of eliminating leprosy from the UK?  In which case, should we all do our bit for public health by shooting ecologists who are trying to preserve and reintroduce this pestilential breed?

 ???
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Erpingham on May 04, 2024, 11:43:21 AM
The main lessons appear to be don't use squirrel fur in clothes and don't keep them as pets. Given what appear to be low transmission rates in modern populations, how much of a risk were medieval squirrels to public health, one wonders?  Do we have records of high levels of leprosy among Scandinavian squirrel hunters, who you would expect to have high exposure levels?
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Keraunos on May 04, 2024, 12:36:33 PM
Quote from: Erpingham on May 04, 2024, 11:43:21 AMThe main lessons appear to be don't use squirrel fur in clothes and don't keep them as pets. Given what appear to be low transmission rates in modern populations, how much of a risk were medieval squirrels to public health, one wonders?  Do we have records of high levels of leprosy among Scandinavian squirrel hunters, who you would expect to have high exposure levels?

Phew!  No pet squirrel and no squirrel fur clothing.  Why only Scandinavian squirrel hunters?  Surely other peoples hunted squirrels as well?
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Erpingham on May 04, 2024, 12:50:05 PM
Quote from: Keraunos on May 04, 2024, 12:36:33 PMWhy only Scandinavian squirrel hunters?  Surely other peoples hunted squirrels as well?

True but the report singled out Scandinavia as a major source of squirrel fur in the period.  So a good place to start, perhaps?
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 04, 2024, 12:54:27 PM
Rats with bushy tails
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: DBS on May 04, 2024, 01:00:29 PM
Jurassic Park, aka Isle of Wight?  Lots of the little blighters there.  Greys found to have sneaked onto the ferries are unceremoniously thrown over the side into the Solent when the RSPCA are not looking...
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 04, 2024, 01:16:27 PM
Little grey feckers....
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Erpingham on May 04, 2024, 01:48:07 PM
Quote from: DBS on May 04, 2024, 01:00:29 PMJurassic Park, aka Isle of Wight?  Lots of the little blighters there. 

Yet the islanders do not suffer from leprosy epidemics, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Nick Harbud on May 04, 2024, 02:26:00 PM
...unless one considers that traditionally leper colonies have been established on remote islands to inhibit spread of the disease amongst the healthy population.

 :P
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Cantabrigian on May 04, 2024, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: Imperial Dave on May 04, 2024, 12:54:27 PMRats with bushy tails
You say that as if it's a bad thing...
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 04, 2024, 05:10:46 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Medieval squirrels and leprosy
Post by: Erpingham on May 04, 2024, 06:32:29 PM
Quote from: Nick Harbud on May 04, 2024, 02:26:00 PM...unless one considers that traditionally leper colonies have been established on remote islands to inhibit spread of the disease amongst the healthy population.

 :P


While I confess I've heard the IoW described as a 50's theme park, no-one has mentioned it being a leper colony.