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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Imperial Dave on May 06, 2024, 05:44:40 AM

Title: Oldest shipwreck...
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 06, 2024, 05:44:40 AM
https://www-express-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/1894967/worlds-oldest-shipwreck-turkey/amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17149705624937&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.express.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fworld%2F1894967%2Fworlds-oldest-shipwreck-turkey

Possibly of interest
Title: Re: Oldest shipwreck...
Post by: Justin Swanton on May 06, 2024, 08:15:23 AM
Of interest. I presume the copper ingots were their equivalent of money?
Title: Re: Oldest shipwreck...
Post by: Erpingham on May 06, 2024, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: Justin Swanton on May 06, 2024, 08:15:23 AMOf interest. I presume the copper ingots were their equivalent of money?
I think the normal interpretation would be raw material. It doesn't say how big these are but later bronze age ones would be hard to carry round.
Title: Re: Oldest shipwreck...
Post by: Justin Swanton on May 06, 2024, 09:33:47 AM
Looking around a bit, it seems copper ingots were used as money around the Aegean before the invention of true money, according to this article. (https://www.britannica.com/money/coin/Origins-of-coins)
Title: Re: Oldest shipwreck...
Post by: Erpingham on May 06, 2024, 09:45:58 AM
Depends what you call money, I suppose.  I can't really see a thriving money economy down the fish market based on 60lb small change.  But if you say standard units of exchange for barter, maybe.
Title: Re: Oldest shipwreck...
Post by: Denis Grey on May 06, 2024, 09:47:30 AM
Quote from: Justin Swanton on May 06, 2024, 08:15:23 AMOf interest. I presume the copper ingots were their equivalent of money?

Hence the expression "Spare a copper, guv'nor".
Title: Re: Oldest shipwreck...
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 06, 2024, 09:52:06 AM
Ahar me hearties
Title: Re: Oldest shipwreck...
Post by: Cantabrigian on May 06, 2024, 12:26:59 PM
A shekel for an old ex-leper?
Title: Re: Oldest shipwreck...
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 06, 2024, 02:10:37 PM
Cured me he did...