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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Imperial Dave on November 14, 2024, 06:30:53 AM

Title: Greece's Dark Age longer than thought
Post by: Imperial Dave on November 14, 2024, 06:30:53 AM
https://phys-org.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/phys.org/news/2024-11-ancient-greece-cultural-century-earlier.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17315657187231&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fphys.org%2Fnews%2F2024-11-ancient-greece-cultural-century-earlier.html

Interesting...
Title: Re: Greece's Dark Age longer than thought
Post by: DBS on November 14, 2024, 12:50:49 PM
Of course, the likes of Peter James who pioneered the New Chronology theory would simply say that the Dark Ages are actually two centuries too long... 🤫
Title: Re: Greece's Dark Age longer than thought
Post by: Keraunos on November 14, 2024, 05:07:03 PM
I could never get my Father to explain why he accepted Peter James' theories at face value and accepted it as axiomatic that any other historian was wrong!  In a way, the idea that the Greek 'Dark Age' did not exist due to failures in chronological understanding is as much a problem as the very idea  of a 'Dark Age' itself.  It is reminiscent of the old geographers marking their maps with dragons, sea monsters and fantastical landscapes, covering up ignorance rather than patiently accepting that there is much we do not know about the world and how our ancestors experienced life.  Just because things may be dark to us does not mean they were dark for those whose lived experience encompassed those times and places.
Title: Re: Greece's Dark Age longer than thought
Post by: Erpingham on November 14, 2024, 05:31:28 PM
It is an interesting case of pottery sequence dating and the perils of having too few solidly dated points to actually peg that to.  A bit more worrying for me is that political and social was so firmly related to a pottery style in these archaeologists heads.  Very 19th/early 20th century archaeology.  "I see they've got some new pots for sale"  "Oh, we'll have to form a city state to take advantage of these new designs".