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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Duncan Head on July 10, 2017, 01:32:02 PM

Title: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Duncan Head on July 10, 2017, 01:32:02 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jul/10/new-cache-of-roman-letters-discovered-at-hadrians-wall
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Imperial Dave on July 10, 2017, 02:25:05 PM
that site really is a gift that keeps on giving in terms of new information on the day to day life of 'ordinary' people. Thanks Duncan for the link
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Prufrock on July 10, 2017, 02:37:56 PM
That is exciting indeed. Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Anton on July 10, 2017, 05:31:43 PM
Yes it is great news.
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Tim on July 10, 2017, 08:27:10 PM
I remember my excitement at seeing them and the reading about them.  A new cache is really exciting.  Thank you Duncan.
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Jim Webster on July 11, 2017, 07:20:30 AM
Quote from: Tim on July 10, 2017, 08:27:10 PM
I remember my excitement at seeing them and the reading about them.  A new cache is really exciting.  Thank you Duncan.
I remember the excitement of learning what the first lot said
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Imperial Dave on July 11, 2017, 08:03:54 AM
I want to find out what happened after the socks and underpants arrived......
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Patrick Waterson on July 11, 2017, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: Holly on July 11, 2017, 08:03:54 AM
I want to find out what happened after the socks and underpants arrived......

Several months later ... a legionary was guarding a pass when a couple of fierce tribesmen arrived, one pulled out a very long knife, the legionary fainted, the tribesmen checked a point of curiosity and ... the rest is history. ;D
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Erpingham on July 11, 2017, 10:24:43 AM
Quote from: Patrick Waterson on July 11, 2017, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: Holly on July 11, 2017, 08:03:54 AM
I want to find out what happened after the socks and underpants arrived......

Several months later ... a legionary was guarding a pass when a couple of fierce tribesmen arrived, one pulled out a very long knife, the legionary fainted, the tribesmen checked a point of curiosity and ... the rest is history. ;D

Is this a scene from the classic of Roman drama "Carry On up the Wall"?
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Imperial Dave on July 11, 2017, 03:40:18 PM
Quote from: Erpingham on July 11, 2017, 10:24:43 AM
Quote from: Patrick Waterson on July 11, 2017, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: Holly on July 11, 2017, 08:03:54 AM
I want to find out what happened after the socks and underpants arrived......

Several months later ... a legionary was guarding a pass when a couple of fierce tribesmen arrived, one pulled out a very long knife, the legionary fainted, the tribesmen checked a point of curiosity and ... the rest is history. ;D

Is this a scene from the classic of Roman drama "Carry On up the Wall"?

Ooooh I say......
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Patrick Waterson on July 11, 2017, 10:54:19 PM
Quote from: Erpingham on July 11, 2017, 10:24:43 AM
Is this a scene from the classic of Roman drama "Carry On up the Wall"?

Indeed, during the appointment of Sidonius Asper Diamantus as governor.  Apparently there was an unspecified scandal involving his wife and the soldiery, a native revolt, a priest and several dancing girls.

Perhaps the next find will shed more light on the affair.
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Mark G on July 12, 2017, 07:02:08 AM
We'll if the letters don't, perhaps one A Goldsworthy could do a Mantel, and bring up the violanda bodies...
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Dangun on July 12, 2017, 08:25:05 PM
I am looking forward to the new Vindolanda letters.

If anyone is interested in this kind of thing, if you haven't come across them yet, I'd recommend the Sogdian letters. Spoiler: the letter from Miwnay is a little heart breaking. Pack tissues.
Title: Re: New find of Vindolanda letters
Post by: Patrick Waterson on July 13, 2017, 08:26:16 AM
If anyone is interested in the Sogdian Letters, they can be found (in translation) here (https://depts.washington.edu/silkroad/texts/sogdlet.html).

To carry on with the revolt under Diamantus, it seems that a local chieftain invited a tribe from beyond the wall and they managed to force their way into one of the main forts, but were repelled by the Romans who, under the governor's direct command, employed an unusual tactic.  Exactly what this was is not mentioned, but it had a fearsome effect on the natives' morale, the rebellious chieftain crying Nescivi! (I did not know!) as he ran off.  This has been rather freely translated as: Ooh, I don't know, though in the original version.