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Imitation islam coins found all over Europe

Started by davidb, August 21, 2017, 08:28:06 PM

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davidb

With regards to the pendant made of a Byznatine coin found in England, I thought it would be interesting to note that copying Islamic coinage was also in vogue.\

http://www.caitlingreen.org/2015/03/some-imitation-islamic-coins.html

These include:

An eighth-century coin of Offa, Anglo-Saxon king of Mercia, based on a gold dinar of the 'Abbāsid caliph Al-Mansur struck in AD 773/4

An eighth-century imitation of an 'Abbāsid dinar of AD 773/4, thought to be minted in Carolingian Europe by Charlemagne.

An imitation of an 'Abbāsid gold dinar of 789–90/792–3 with added crosses, thought to have been struck in Anglo-Saxon England, perhaps either by Offa or Coenwulf of Mercia

A 'Christian falcon' imitation dirham issued by the Kievan Rus' in c. 950, reused twice as a pendant and found in Estonia

A Khazar "Moses" dirham, minted in 837/8 and found in a hoard on the Baltic island of Gotland

A late ninth- or very early tenth-century Khazar imitation dirham, with the outer edge legend transformed into tamgha-like signs; an example was found near to Acklam, North Yorkshire, and appears to have been reused as a Viking brooch-fitting

A tenth-century tari of Gisulfo I of Salerno, imitating a Fatimid quarter dinar

Patrick Waterson

As the British Museum points out, it is unlikely that these would be minted on the basis of their Arabic inscriptions, as a legend reading "there is no God but Allah alone" would seem inappropriate for coins sent to the Papacy.  Judging by the Kievan Rus coin's subsequent use as a pendant, in addition to the imitation Byzantine coin used in this fashion, it would seem that these 'imitation' coins were produced because people - particularly the still-predominantly-functionally-illiterate kings who would have ordered them made - liked what they thought was the pretty decoration, as did their subjects.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Winston Churchill

Duncan Head

I suspect it's more than "pretty"; rather, this is what people expected a gold coin to look like. Perhaps there was even a hope that people would see the similarity to the Arab coins as a promise of the same gold content and value.
Duncan Head

Patrick Waterson

Good point: if they had assumed the status of trusted standard values (like the old Attic drachma), then imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and of qualifying for a common standard.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Winston Churchill

evilgong

Roman and Greek coins were imitated (by 'barbarians') well before these dates.

David B

Patrick Waterson

As was the gold stater of Philip II in pre-Roman Britannia, the one potential supporting datum for the idea that Alexander visited the British Isles during his exile.  (There are two, if one believes Alexander named Scotland - scotia, darkness, suggesting an arrival late in the year.)
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Winston Churchill