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Great Pyramid: Lost Egyptian artefact found in Aberdeen cigar box

Started by Imperial Dave, December 16, 2020, 09:13:58 AM

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Duncan Head

It's remarkably unimpressive as artefacts go, but the radiocarbon date is interesting.
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Imperial Dave

Quote from: Duncan Head on December 16, 2020, 09:19:38 AM
It's remarkably unimpressive as artefacts go, but the radiocarbon date is interesting.

I must admit I was underwhelmed as well Duncan by the actual find but as you say the radiocarbon dating is the most interesting aspect
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Jon Freitag

Quote from: Holly on December 16, 2020, 09:13:58 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-55315623

I wonder if its the same for old sweet tins, I've a ton of those in the loft....

Dave, thanks for posting the link to this story. While the pieces of wood are interesting, it does not shed much light upon the original find.  In what context were these original, 5,000 year-old bits of wood found?  Was the item a single piece that has deteriorated since 1872 or is this its original state?  Where was it found within the Queen's Chamber?  Is this a relic or construction debris?  So many questions...

DBS

Quote from: JonFreitag on December 16, 2020, 03:41:07 PM
Dave, thanks for posting the link to this story. While the pieces of wood are interesting, it does not shed much light upon the original find.  In what context were these original, 5,000 year-old bits of wood found?  Was the item a single piece that has deteriorated since 1872 or is this its original state?  Where was it found within the Queen's Chamber?  Is this a relic or construction debris?  So many questions...
The answer is in the BBC report:
Neil Curtis... added: "It will now be for scholars to debate its use..."

Translation - "We know that we will never be able to conclude on any sensible basis why these small pieces of wood were in the pyramid, nor what purpose they may have served, but that will not stop an awful lot of scholars who should know better from competitively speculating endlessly and ever more imaginatively for decades to come, and hopefully even generating more headlines in the media."
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Jon Freitag

Quote from: DBS on December 18, 2020, 11:42:30 PM
The answer is in the BBC report:
Neil Curtis... added: "It will now be for scholars to debate its use..."

Translation - "We know that we will never be able to conclude on any sensible basis why these small pieces of wood were in the pyramid, nor what purpose they may have served, but that will not stop an awful lot of scholars who should know better from competitively speculating endlessly and ever more imaginatively for decades to come, and hopefully even generating more headlines in the media."

Good one!

Imperial Dave

of course the answer could be

its just a 5000 year old stick
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Jim Webster

Quote from: Holly on December 19, 2020, 08:24:12 AM
of course the answer could be

its just a 5000 year old stick

The real find was if they opened an untouched 5000 year old Egyptian tomb and found an Aberdeen cigar box  8)

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Chuck the Grey

Quote from: Holly on December 19, 2020, 11:10:15 PM
or a cigar....

That would be conclusive proof of aliens building the pyramids. Or time travelers. or people from Atlantis, or ?.  ;D

Jon Freitag

Quote from: Chuck the Grey on December 22, 2020, 12:14:16 AM
That would be conclusive proof of aliens building the pyramids. Or time travelers. or people from Atlantis, or ?.  ;D

...Egyptians making cigars.

Imperial Dave

Quote from: JonFreitag on December 22, 2020, 12:32:04 AM
Quote from: Chuck the Grey on December 22, 2020, 12:14:16 AM
That would be conclusive proof of aliens building the pyramids. Or time travelers. or people from Atlantis, or ?.  ;D

...Egyptians making cigars.

there is always someone to spoil a good theory!  ;D
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Old Sarum

We know that Egyptian tombs could contain models of soldiers. Perhaps we should be considering the stick in terms of its relationship to the base widths used at the time. After all it came from what amounts to a large Barkermarker!

Why wouldn't pharoahs want to wargame for eternity.

Imperial Dave

Quote from: Old Sarum on December 22, 2020, 04:37:47 PM
We know that Egyptian tombs could contain models of soldiers. Perhaps we should be considering the stick in terms of its relationship to the base widths used at the time. After all it came from what amounts to a large Barkermarker!

Why wouldn't pharoahs want to wargame for eternity.

a very good thought Trevor.....
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