Iron age Wales

[Imperial Dave]

https://www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67285857.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17022011537049&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com

Don't bother buying books. Just read the article 

[Nick Harbud]

Wales before Roman rule, he said, was too often seen as "insular, primitive and wild, a forested place whose people were huddling in animals skins on hilltops".

How long did it take, after the Romans arrived, for the willfully ignorant inhabitants east of the Severn to change their opinion? 

Incidentally, that part of north Pembrokeshire is worth a visit if you enjoy stone circles, standing stones, reconstructed iron age villages and sundry other prehistoric bits and pieces.  It is a bit like the area on Salisbury Plain where you find Stonehenge, Silbury Hill, Avebury, etc.  A place of spiritual weirdness.  Of course, the Preselli Hills nearby are where they quarried the bluestones found at Stonehenge, and hauling them such a long distance was not simply down to nobody having invented the garden centre.

 

[Erpingham]

Given that Wales is a post-Roman concept, might it be that they thought the whole of Britain was "insular, primitive and wild" and people in what is today's Wales were nothing out of the ordinary?

[Imperial Dave]

Wales is where people escape to from England 

[Erpingham]

Wales is where people escape to from England 

So that's what Edward I was up to.

[Imperial Dave]

and a bit of castle building

[Erpingham]

and a bit of castle building

You know the English and their Welsh holiday homes, Dave.  He was an early adopter.

[Imperial Dave]

Lol. Council tax would have hurt him 

[Jim Webster]

Lol. Council tax would have hurt him 

The advantage of the castle is that it probably makes collecting a bit tricky   

Anyway when the heavily armed occupant claimed it was their primary residence the legal issues become fraught. After all, if the occupant is a tenant, then they might actually be entitled to housing benefit of some sort. I'd be wary about asking too many questions 

[Imperial Dave]

And the heating bills.....

[DBS]

Given that Wales is a post-Roman concept, might it be that they thought the whole of Britain was "insular, primitive and wild" and people in what is today's Wales were nothing out of the ordinary?

And somewhere they regarded as worthy of at least nominal investment and presence, unlike the really hairy lot in the far north who only merited a couple of big walls and occasional bouts of recreational genocide...

Plus, if one accepts the cymru/cives relationship, a bunch of Britons who eventually treasured their imperial identity to some extent.

[Imperial Dave]

indeed

[Jim Webster]

Given that Wales is a post-Roman concept, might it be that they thought the whole of Britain was "insular, primitive and wild" and people in what is today's Wales were nothing out of the ordinary?

And somewhere they regarded as worthy of at least nominal investment and presence, unlike the really hairy lot in the far north who only merited a couple of big walls and occasional bouts of recreational genocide...

Plus, if one accepts the cymru/cives relationship, a bunch of Britons who eventually treasured their imperial identity to some extent.

Bunch of sellouts who even tried to steal the name of the true Cymri   

[Imperial Dave]

Cymru am byth!

[gavindbm]

Reading articles like this makes me want to complete my Ancient British force (which has languishes at partly done for 10+ years) and construct a hill fort for them. 

Analysing my response.  The article makes me want to create a hill fort. But, for some reason, I feel the need to have an army before I can create the hill fort!