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Title: Derbyshire cave house identified as ninth-century home to exiled king
Post by: Imperial Dave on July 15, 2021, 08:43:45 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/15/derbyshire-cave-house-identified-as-ninth-century-home-to-exiled-king

never knew of its existence previously....
Title: Re: Derbyshire cave house identified as ninth-century home to exiled king
Post by: Erpingham on July 15, 2021, 10:15:20 AM
I do hope there is some dating evidence in this report, as the article seems to be all speculation.
Title: Re: Derbyshire cave house identified as ninth-century home to exiled king
Post by: Imperial Dave on July 15, 2021, 11:49:26 AM
it is a bit like that at the moment but one hopes.....
Title: Re: Derbyshire cave house identified as ninth-century home to exiled king
Post by: nikgaukroger on July 15, 2021, 03:20:46 PM
I know Edmund and I think you can be assured he has suitable evidence - whether the press have properly reported what he says is, of course, another thing ...
Title: Re: Derbyshire cave house identified as ninth-century home to exiled king
Post by: Duncan Head on July 15, 2021, 05:26:30 PM
QuoteThe conclusions are documented in a study published in the Proceedings of the University of Bristol Speleological Society.
Which says:
QuoteAnchor Church is an artificial cave at Ingleby in Derbyshire, it is cut into a cliff on the south side of a tributary of the Trent. The site has been long suspected to have been a hermitage and has been identified with Saint Hardulph, a deposed Northumbrian king who seemingly retired as a hermit at this site. The fabric of the cave itself has been presumed to largely relate to the use of the site in the 18th or 19th century by the inhabitants of nearby Foremarke Hall. Analysis shows that such a late origin for the structures is very unlikely and that modifications in the 18th or 19th century were on a small-scale and saw no significant enlargement of the existing caves. The phasing, the known history, comparison with similar sites, architectural analysis and the few surviving diagnostic features strongly suggest an early medieval origin for the site, probably dating back to the 8th century. This may be a unique example of an almost intact early medieval domestic interior and requires further study.
From https://www.ubss.org.uk/search_literature.php

Looks like stylistic and comparative evidence.
Title: Re: Derbyshire cave house identified as ninth-century home to exiled king
Post by: Nick Harbud on July 16, 2021, 07:49:59 AM
Gosh, and here was I mistaking this for an article on the current poor state of council housing stock...  :-[
Title: Re: Derbyshire cave house identified as ninth-century home to exiled king
Post by: Imperial Dave on July 16, 2021, 08:31:54 AM
poor? poor??

its practically palatial  :P
Title: Re: Derbyshire cave house identified as ninth-century home to exiled king
Post by: Chuck the Grey on July 18, 2021, 08:24:36 PM
Quote from: Holly on July 16, 2021, 08:31:54 AM
poor? poor??

its practically palatial  :P

I could probably sell it for $500K (USD) in California and that would be a bargain.  ::)
Title: Re: Derbyshire cave house identified as ninth-century home to exiled king
Post by: Imperial Dave on July 18, 2021, 08:59:24 PM
 :o
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