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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Weapons and Tactics => Topic started by: Cantabrigian on December 22, 2022, 06:24:41 PM

Title: Wearing your sword under your armour
Post by: Cantabrigian on December 22, 2022, 06:24:41 PM
https://sagy.vikingove.cz/en/swords-worn-beneath-the-mail-in-11th-and-12th-century/

Has anyone seen this?
Title: Re: Wearing your sword under your armour
Post by: Duncan Head on December 22, 2022, 06:31:04 PM
I hadn't seen that before; interesting, thanks. A lot of the source illustrations are probably well known, but there are certainly some in there that are new to me.
Title: Re: Wearing your sword under your armour
Post by: Imperial Dave on December 22, 2022, 06:34:27 PM
for me it makes sense. As someone who has tried to run with a 3-foot sword-in-scabbard hanging from a belt it isnt easy!
Title: Re: Wearing your sword under your armour
Post by: Erpingham on December 22, 2022, 06:58:49 PM
Interesting.  Certainly a few there I hadn't seen.
Title: Re: Wearing your sword under your armour
Post by: Nick Harbud on December 23, 2022, 02:34:48 PM
Now, just to find the figures to update my Norman and Anglo-Danish armoured types....

BTW, I feel that Uhtred's method of slinging his scabbarded sword across his back is probably even more practical for running.

Title: Re: Wearing your sword under your armour
Post by: Cantabrigian on December 23, 2022, 04:46:46 PM
Ah Uhtred...  If you look carefully in the early episodes you'll see that he has the scabbard before he gets the sword to go in it. That's what I call forward planning...
Title: Re: Wearing your sword under your armour
Post by: evilgong on December 23, 2022, 11:13:08 PM
I wonder if it's to keep the belt inside the armour / clothes to deprive the enemy of a belt to grab in melee or to avoid having an exposed belt that might get tangled up in your kit, or perhaps the guy standing beside you.

One for the re-enactment people to comment on.

David F Brown
Title: Re: Wearing your sword under your armour
Post by: Erpingham on December 24, 2022, 10:54:03 AM
What is interesting is not everybody does it.  Most images show the sword hanging outside the armour.  So, presumably, the balance of pros and cons was not such that everyone leapt on the "new" style.