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Takabara Javelins

Started by David Kush, May 31, 2014, 09:49:00 PM

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Justin Swanton

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Not forgetting the specialised mobile units known as the welebara, from the wele, a deeply concave shield placed, not on the head, but beneath the feet of a Gardinian fighter. Ingeniously mounted on a wheel (root wele: Assy. 'that which rolls'), the soldier stood upright in it and was pushed into battle by a camp follower. His speed along with his superior elevation, enabling him to pick out targets for his javelins above the dust of battle, gave him a distinct advantage over his adversaries.

Sorry, just could not resist!

Andreas Johansson

Quote from: Duncan Head on June 02, 2014, 08:47:11 PM
Quote from: Andreas Johansson on June 02, 2014, 07:21:06 PM
Quote from: Duncan Head on June 02, 2014, 11:33:49 AM
"taka" means a shield, presumably not all shields (since we know that the word spara exists and means another sort of shield)
Whence that "presumably"?
Umm, from my vague memory of Sekunda (1988), I think. Unless that was a rhetorical question.
Not meant as rhetorical. It would hardly to be safe to assume that a step missing in your summary of the argument was necessarily missing in the original.
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Patrick Waterson

Quote from: Duncan Head on June 02, 2014, 09:24:01 PM
No, it's only this inscription from which Sekunda constructs a name for the troop-type.

Of course, it is only the name that's at issue; there is other evidence for the existence and appearance of "Persian peltasts".

Thanks, Duncan.

Quote from: Andreas Johansson on June 02, 2014, 07:21:06 PM

(Since at least one other subject people appear to be named for a cultural or cultic habit - the Sakā haumavargā, aka Amyrgian Scythians, or the haoma-drinking Scythians/Saka - one idly wonders if the raising of maginnāta might be something similar.)

So might we find ourselves fielding a unit of kottabos players?  ;D
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