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Power games

Quote from: Nick Harbud on May 12, 2024, 05:29:42 PMGood job the Spartans never read Mahan.

 

The Spartans were into poems about pretty flowers and stomping on your enemy, not the theory of naval strategy.  They became a naval power thanks to the largesse of the dominant regional power, Persia.  To talk of the Peloponnesian war as being Athens (Navy) vs Sparta (Land) while ignoring everything else that was going on in the region is misguided.

https://www-bbc-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp6gdnke26wo.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17155441300704&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2Fcp6gdnke26wo

Another fight to stave off development

Quote from: Mark G on May 12, 2024, 12:47:17 PMI tend to think the interesting thing is that it's one of the few occasions where the land power defeats the sea power.

Usually it's the ability to keep trading and controlling the trade routes that leads to the long term victor. 
If you can build a strong enough fleet to achieve parity or to meaningfully contest those routes - as Rome managed - then that's the other way.  But being gifted a fleet, that works too.
Neither is easy, or common, but one or the other is absolutely necessary

Good job the Spartans never read Mahan.

 

Good job the original Roman occupants are not still around.  I mean, having one's camp demolished to make way for an underground car park must be the ancient equivalent of having one's planet destroyed to make way for a hyperspace bypass.

https://news-artnet-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/news.artnet.com/art-world/roman-ruins-found-switzerland-gebenstorf-2471550/amp-page?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17155236053602&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.artnet.com%2Fart-world%2Froman-ruins-found-switzerland-gebenstorf-2471550

And not to leave the Swiss out of things....

https://www.newsweek.com/secrets-exceptional-roman-shipwreck-revealed-1899456

6 feet down....

And Persian gold being the interlink 

I tend to think the interesting thing is that it's one of the few occasions where the land power defeats the sea power.

Usually it's the ability to keep trading and controlling the trade routes that leads to the long term victor. 
If you can build a strong enough fleet to achieve parity or to meaningfully contest those routes - as Rome managed - then that's the other way.  But being gifted a fleet, that works too.
Neither is easy, or common, but one or the other is absolutely necessary