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Title: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 10, 2023, 03:04:28 PM
Monday night's game was a small 1 v1 Barons wars game due to Gordon and Hugh both being unable to attend. So Bill took the Royalist army and Graham the Baronial Rebels.

The Rebels won as Henry III fell off his horse in melee and was killed and the Knights of the Holy Orders (Hospitallers and Templars) went away on a wide, right flank sweeping manoeuvre behind the woods on the Royal Army's right Flank sector and never got into action at all.

The Infantry centre of the Royal Army was overwhelmed by the Barons' more numerous infantry and a wild charge of some of their Knights before the 'Brothers' even became visible.

I also contributed to the downfall of King henry by miscalculating his army's points value; leaving him 140pts short of the supposed 1600pts strength.

You just can't get the staff these days!

Cheers
Simon
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Erpingham on November 10, 2023, 03:10:56 PM
Do the chocolate biscuits block line of sight for the archers?

And I like the bear - all medieval armies need a bear.  :)
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Imperial Dave on November 10, 2023, 04:17:55 PM
Biscuits

1/2 movement speed due to scoffing
But +1 attack bonus
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 10, 2023, 04:19:56 PM
Anthony,

Surprisingly, the chocolate biscuits didn't survive the battle!

regarding the bear, Warwick is currently on the painting table.

Cheers

Simon  :D

Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Keraunos on November 12, 2023, 06:02:19 PM
And the palm trees!  I knew the temperatures were higher in the 13th century than before and after.  Presumably enough to grow the odd tree brought back by crusaders with a botanical disposition?
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 13, 2023, 01:44:27 PM
The Gulf Stream effect!
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 21, 2023, 10:40:55 AM
Last night's game was a TACTICA 1 rematch of King Henry III's army against the rebellious Barons. This time was victory for the King!
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Erpingham on November 21, 2023, 12:08:46 PM
Damn Templars get everywhere.  I blame Dan Brown.

Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Imperial Dave on November 21, 2023, 12:47:52 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 21, 2023, 12:56:29 PM
Anthony, Dave, I do have Hospitallers as well but they are fewer in number and tend to hide in amongst others.  I think that the Knights of the Temple are on their way up North to Rosslyn!
 :)
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Erpingham on November 21, 2023, 01:02:07 PM
Quote from: simonw on November 21, 2023, 12:56:29 PMon their way up North to Rosslyn!
 :)

Well worth visiting, those who've never been.  Though the Templars may be a bit disappointed, as the famous chapel wasn't built until the 15th century.
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 21, 2023, 02:15:42 PM
I blame Dan Brown! Somebody had to place the foundation stone (or bury the Holy Grail).
 :)
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Imperial Dave on November 21, 2023, 05:37:55 PM
I've got a god particle somewhere...
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 25, 2023, 04:15:09 PM
I have done a bit of painting over the weekend and expanded King Henry's army. God is now on his side! Hopefully, I'll be able to write up a report on Monday night's (expanded) game as we are gong to have a full complement of gamers.
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Imperial Dave on November 25, 2023, 05:26:27 PM
A lovely shot of his nibs
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Jon Freitag on November 25, 2023, 05:57:15 PM
Quote from: Imperial Dave on November 25, 2023, 05:26:27 PMA lovely shot of his nibs
His nibs?  Rare is the day when I am not heading to the Oxford Dictionary to clarify an idiom. Perhaps I should get out more?
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Erpingham on November 25, 2023, 06:06:16 PM
Quote from: Jon Freitag on November 25, 2023, 05:57:15 PM
Quote from: Imperial Dave on November 25, 2023, 05:26:27 PMA lovely shot of his nibs
His nibs?  Rare is the day when I am not heading to the Oxford Dictionary to clarify an idiom. Perhaps I should get out more?

Not a common phrase with modern generations - more my dad's era - so not surprising you've not come across it.
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 25, 2023, 06:18:10 PM
I understood 'his nibs' meaning OK.
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Erpingham on November 25, 2023, 06:26:59 PM
Quote from: simonw on November 25, 2023, 06:18:10 PMI understood 'his nibs' meaning OK.

But you don't come from the western USA  :) Unlike some of the recent explanations, which were from popular culture, this one does appear to be a regional vocubulary difference.
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 25, 2023, 07:26:05 PM
Anthony,

Having been raised in Salford in the northwest of England, I admit to retaining some of the local dialect (e.g. 'bobbydazzler'; something to which one should aspire to become). Then, I have lived for over 40 years in and around Glasgow in Scotland so I have a bit of a language 'stramash' at times such that my English relatives 'cannae ken' what I'm talking about at times.. Then again, I also lived in Australia for over 7 years and even to this day can recall bits of 'Aussie English', like 'wowser'. You don't want to be one of those!

Better sign off now before 'the missus' goes all 'lemony' on me.

Cheers
Simon

)P,S. I had a holiday in San Diego a couple of years back to watch the tennis at Indian Wells and managed to visit the Joshua Tree National Park. Amazing country! I like deserts.

Interesting 'Terrain' for gaming!

Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 29, 2023, 12:39:59 PM
Last Monday night's game was 'bash' no. 2 between King henry III and the Rebel Barons. King Henry fell off his horse and the Templars who were supposed to be protecting him felt vet+ry guilty about it and performed appallingly.

Overall though, neither side carried the day and both retired from the field badly mauled but unbowed to fight again next week (with a few reinforcements).

Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Jon Freitag on November 29, 2023, 12:47:52 PM
Wonderful looking armies, Simon.  What is the use of the wooden sticks behind some units?  Are they utilized in pushing formations across the table?
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 29, 2023, 02:22:43 PM
John,
Thanks. The sticks are 2",4",6",8" and 12" and are used for pushing the units across the table as you say, keeping straight lines for flank and rear projections and finally, for measuring distances. We also use 8" graduated sticks (for less than standard movement distances) and a couple of 9" sticks for javelin ranges. I place 4 sets of sticks on the table and they are well used but unfortunately, table discipline tends to fail when action reaches greater heights and they all get mixed up. nevertheless, the accuracy of the distance measurements is better than for a tape measure so that 2" wheels for infantry and 4" wheels for cavalry are very precisely measured which combined with the use of a laser, makes any potential disagreements about flank and rear attack eligibility most unlikely; albeit in the old days, when there was a potential disagreement, we just 'rolled for it' (house rules).

As an example, in TACTICA 2 rules there is an 8" Control Threat Zone in front a Massed Unit which precludes any actions other than a Charge Straight Ahead or a Halt. There is no wheeling or shorter movement choice available 9with specific caveats). If the 8" stick doesn't fit between two opposing units, then the CTZ restrictions apply; no doubt about it.

Cheers
Simon
P.S. They are also good 'prodders' although I haven't had to wake anybody up during a game yet!  :)
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Imperial Dave on November 29, 2023, 03:15:03 PM
Really nice Simon. Good battle and report
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 29, 2023, 08:53:28 PM
Dave,

Thanks.

Hopefully, if everybody is fit and well I should be able to write next weeks game as 'Episode 10'; the last report in the series for Slingshot. This week due to a significant absence through illness, I was too busy playing to be be systematic in my noters gathering to write up officially.

The Barons War game will replace the Normans v Saxons game originally planned because it appeared in the end that nobody had a sufficient number of figures.
Cheers
Simon
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Imperial Dave on November 30, 2023, 06:33:33 AM
Thanks Simon.
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Martin Smith on November 30, 2023, 06:54:23 AM
Quote from: simonw on November 29, 2023, 02:22:43 PMThe sticks are 2",4",6",8" and 12" and are used for pushing the units across the table as you say, keeping straight lines for flank and rear projections and finally, for measuring distances .....
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Cheers
Simon


Simon, are these 'home made', or a commercially available item (if so, where from, please?)
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 30, 2023, 08:48:21 AM
Martin,

They are commercially available. I think I got mine from Warbases but it was a couple of years back at the Falkirk wargames show so I'm not 100 percent certain. That is my recollection though.

Looking around the internet, there seem to be a few manufacturers of similar laser cut MDF measuring sticks although I couldn't see the exact same ones.

Sorry I can't be more precise.
Simon
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Ian61 on November 30, 2023, 08:53:58 AM
Been a bit distracted last week or so and missed the pic of Henry and the bishop (I have just liked it). My history isn't good enough to know if this is a well known bishop but lovely models.
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 30, 2023, 09:32:58 AM
Ian,

Thanks. I think that the Bishop is a Talisman game figure. In the context of the barons war and King Henry III, I'm afraid that he is only a 'generic' cleric. He could be Richard le Grant (NOT to be confused with Richard E Grant; although that would be most amusing).

Simon
P.S. King Henry is Curteys Miniatures.
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on November 30, 2023, 09:39:39 AM
The Bishop (Talisman game).
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: Imperial Dave on November 30, 2023, 12:34:28 PM
looks like my old nan :o
Title: Re: TACTICA 2 BARONS WARS
Post by: simonw on December 09, 2023, 03:19:51 PM
A new set of Divisional Commanders  for Monday night's Barons Wars TACTICA 2 game.