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General Category => Army Research => Topic started by: Ade G on June 27, 2021, 11:55:16 AM

Title: Parthian Greek militia
Post by: Ade G on June 27, 2021, 11:55:16 AM
Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for the appearance of the Greek militia from Parthian cities?
Title: Re: Parthian Greek militia
Post by: Jim Webster on June 27, 2021, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: Ade G on June 27, 2021, 11:55:16 AM
Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for the appearance of the Greek militia from Parthian cities?

I suspect that it depends exactly when   ;)

If we can take Ptolemaic evidence as giving us some pointers, some Ptolemaic 'Macedonians' had Egyptian mothers, grandmothers and great grandmothers, had Greek and Egyptian names and left family records in Coptic. It could well be that the 'Greeks' in the east had also intermarried by the 1st century BC/AD and they might well have looked more 'Persian' or at least trousers and tunic
Title: Re: Parthian Greek militia
Post by: Duncan Head on June 27, 2021, 02:43:26 PM
At https://www.academia.edu/44109893/Parthian_Nineveh_DPhil_Thesis_1995_ Fig.82 (page 395 by the pdf's count) is a Parthian-era figurine from Nineveh with a thureos shield, wearing long tunic, trousers, pointy cap and cloak. Whether "Greek" or not, he's probably a city militia thureophoros of the Parthian period.
Title: Re: Parthian Greek militia
Post by: Swampster on June 27, 2021, 03:22:22 PM
Quote from: Duncan Head on June 27, 2021, 02:43:26 PM
At https://www.academia.edu/44109893/Parthian_Nineveh_DPhil_Thesis_1995_ Fig.82 (page 395 by the pdf's count) is a Parthian-era figurine from Nineveh with a thureos shield, wearing long tunic, trousers, pointy cap and cloak. Whether "Greek" or not, he's probably a city militia thureophoros of the Parthian period.
Various 'Bosporan' of 'Black Sea' figures such as OG15s' are similar though without cloaks
e.g. https://oldglory15s.com/Bosporan-Infantry-SA07.htm
Title: Re: Parthian Greek militia
Post by: Ade G on June 27, 2021, 05:24:32 PM
Quote from: Jim Webster on June 27, 2021, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: Ade G on June 27, 2021, 11:55:16 AM
Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions for the appearance of the Greek militia from Parthian cities?

I suspect that it depends exactly when   ;)

If we can take Ptolemaic evidence as giving us some pointers, some Ptolemaic 'Macedonians' had Egyptian mothers, grandmothers and great grandmothers, had Greek and Egyptian names and left family records in Coptic. It could well be that the 'Greeks' in the east had also intermarried by the 1st century BC/AD and they might well have looked more 'Persian' or at least trousers and tunic

Thanks Jim. You answered the unasked question concerning trousers!
Title: Re: Parthian Greek militia
Post by: Ade G on June 27, 2021, 05:26:09 PM
Quote from: Duncan Head on June 27, 2021, 02:43:26 PM
At https://www.academia.edu/44109893/Parthian_Nineveh_DPhil_Thesis_1995_ Fig.82 (page 395 by the pdf's count) is a Parthian-era figurine from Nineveh with a thureos shield, wearing long tunic, trousers, pointy cap and cloak. Whether "Greek" or not, he's probably a city militia thureophoros of the Parthian period.

Thank you Duncan
Title: Re: Parthian Greek militia
Post by: Ade G on June 27, 2021, 05:27:30 PM
Quote from: Swampster on June 27, 2021, 03:22:22 PM
Quote from: Duncan Head on June 27, 2021, 02:43:26 PM
At https://www.academia.edu/44109893/Parthian_Nineveh_DPhil_Thesis_1995_ Fig.82 (page 395 by the pdf's count) is a Parthian-era figurine from Nineveh with a thureos shield, wearing long tunic, trousers, pointy cap and cloak. Whether "Greek" or not, he's probably a city militia thureophoros of the Parthian period.
Various 'Bosporan' of 'Black Sea' figures such as OG15s' are similar though without cloaks
e.g. https://oldglory15s.com/Bosporan-Infantry-SA07.htm

I can knock these up from plastics as I'm gaming in 25mm

Thank you Peter