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Quote from: Erpingham on Today at 04:34:16 PMWhile on the subject of military myths, we will all recall the scene in Olivier's Henry V with the knight being lowered into his saddle with a crane.  I'm sure no-one here believes this but some may think that Olivier invented it for dramatic effect.  Not so.  There are a number of explanations for it around but the best I found so far is by Robert Woosnam-Savage here. Yet another Victorian contribution to medieval history.

Enough spikey bits on the horse armour in the illustration to satisfy even a 40K figure modeller 

While on the subject of military myths, we will all recall the scene in Olivier's Henry V with the knight being lowered into his saddle with a crane.  I'm sure no-one here believes this but some may think that Olivier invented it for dramatic effect.  Not so.  There are a number of explanations for it around but the best I found so far is by Robert Woosnam-Savage here. Yet another Victorian contribution to medieval history.

It might be worth posting this to the DBMMlist group Andrea's as Nigel Tallis is a member and should be able to confirm the current thinking

A home from home!

You're welcome guys.

I was the only person bar Phil Hendry to be using a camera so that might account for the deeper "depth of field" in the shots?

https://www.archaeology.wiki/blog/2024/05/23/3500-year-old-mycenaean-armour-was-suitable-for-extended-battle/

Interesting stuff and right up my alley

For unusual reasons, I've been thinking recently of what a Middle Elamite (ca 1600-1200 BC) army might look like. AANE says that almost nothing is known except from a relief showing archers with helmet, tunic, and dagger (probably this one), on which shaky grounds I've previously toyed with the idea of borrowing the chariotry from my Mitanni - they're supposed to have been role models for charioteering all over the ANE, right? - and adding a horde of foot archers in tunics to round the army out.

But AANE is now forty years old, so maybe more evidence has turned up in the meantime? Discouragingly, the other wargamer's guide to the ANE I've got, Zeughaus' Die Heere im Alten Orient (2010) doesn't have any reconstructions of Elamites at all.

https://arkeonews.net/archaeologists-discover-three-extraordinary-1800-year-old-residential-style-tombs-featuring-rooms-and-windows-filled-with-han-dynasty-treasures/

Really well preserved

Chris, your research and level of minute detailing are first rate and overwhelmingly impressive.

I don't buy the argument that
"fighting with a movable coloured battle-plans"
brings forth a sense of universal
"disgust of conventional wargamers...(and) heresy"
in response to this method of fighting battles. 

We are free to choose our own methods and media for recreating battles.  If colored cardboard counters work for you, who can argue with your approach? Not me, for sure.

Do you remember the uproar among the miniature wargaming community when GDW's System 7 Napoleonics cardboard counters won the 1979 HG Wells Award for Best Historical Miniatures Series?  I do.

Your Raphia essay tempts me to pull a Raphia board game off the shelf and give the cardboard counters a spin.

Thank you.

very nice indeed Chris and much appreciated for taking the time to do this