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History => Ancient and Medieval History => Topic started by: Imperial Dave on May 05, 2021, 08:30:01 AM

Title: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 05, 2021, 08:30:01 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-56981338

that's a lot of moving....
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Jim Webster on May 05, 2021, 12:40:05 PM
Quote from: Holly on May 05, 2021, 08:30:01 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-56981338

that's a lot of moving....


I suspect they're lucky the last known burial is over 100 years old. Following normally CofE rules you can probably get to renew the grave spaces just using a faculty. But you don't normally remove anybody, just stick the next ones in
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 05, 2021, 12:55:17 PM
as long as they dont use a JCB.....
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Jim Webster on May 05, 2021, 03:39:18 PM
Surprising how many modern grave diggers use a mini digger  8)
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 05, 2021, 07:36:03 PM
sans bodies though  ;D
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Jim Webster on May 05, 2021, 07:38:38 PM
Quote from: Holly on May 05, 2021, 07:36:03 PM
sans bodies though  ;D

I've dug holes for ashes (not full graves) in one of our local churchyards and I'd guess that it's been completely used three times. It's more a thin human soup than discrete graves
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 05, 2021, 07:51:34 PM
Quote from: Jim Webster on May 05, 2021, 07:38:38 PM
Quote from: Holly on May 05, 2021, 07:36:03 PM
sans bodies though  ;D

I've dug holes for ashes (not full graves) in one of our local churchyards and I'd guess that it's been completely used three times. It's more a thin human soup than discrete graves

:o
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Dangun on May 07, 2021, 09:35:03 AM
Mandatory cremation.
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Jim Webster on May 07, 2021, 09:53:02 AM
Quote from: Dangun on May 07, 2021, 09:35:03 AM
Mandatory cremation.

Do you know how much trouble we have with people dumping ashes all over the place    :o
Given the amounts of heavy metals, plastics etc they should probably be disposed off as dangerous waste :-[
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 07, 2021, 09:57:00 AM
thats right....bury it....no wait....
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Jim Webster on May 07, 2021, 10:27:16 AM
Quote from: Holly on May 07, 2021, 09:57:00 AM
thats right....bury it....no wait....

The advantage is that if it's disposed of in a church yard, the ground is unlikely to be returned to agriculture any time soon. So we keep them out of the food chain  ;)
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 07, 2021, 10:32:51 AM
ish......run off is not your friend lol
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Jim Webster on May 07, 2021, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: Holly on May 07, 2021, 10:32:51 AM
ish......run off is not your friend lol

The regulations for the disposal of animal carcasses are far stricter than those for the burying of people!
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 07, 2021, 09:02:32 PM
Quote from: Jim Webster on May 07, 2021, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: Holly on May 07, 2021, 10:32:51 AM
ish......run off is not your friend lol

The regulations for the disposal of animal carcasses are far stricter than those for the burying of people!

same as for animal feed versus human feed!  :o
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Jim Webster on May 07, 2021, 09:21:10 PM
Quote from: Holly on May 07, 2021, 09:02:32 PM
Quote from: Jim Webster on May 07, 2021, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: Holly on May 07, 2021, 10:32:51 AM
ish......run off is not your friend lol

The regulations for the disposal of animal carcasses are far stricter than those for the burying of people!

same as for animal feed versus human feed!  :o

I know at one point the dairy hygiene regulations were stricter and more tightly policed that the regulations pertaining to cafes etc
I genuinely don't know if that is still true
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Nick Harbud on May 08, 2021, 04:15:30 PM
Probably something to do with the chances of catching mad cow disease from a scone....   :-\
Title: Re: Stoke Mandeville: HS2 to move 3,000 bodies from medieval churchyard
Post by: Imperial Dave on May 08, 2021, 06:52:02 PM
 :o