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More peaceful but you just died anyway of different things?

Quote from: Jim Webster on October 16, 2024, 06:25:32 PMMore peaceful but you just died anyway of different things?

The proportion of people who die sticks stubbornly at 100% :p

But if life expectancy went up and violence went down, that sounds suspiciously like progress to me. (What have the Romans ever done for us? I mean, except stopping us from killing one another.)

Quote from: Andreas Johansson on October 17, 2024, 08:53:13 AM

Quote from: Jim Webster on October 16, 2024, 06:25:32 PMMore peaceful but you just died anyway of different things?

The proportion of people who die sticks stubbornly at 100% :p

But if life expectancy went up and violence went down, that sounds suspiciously like progress to me. (What have the Romans ever done for us? I mean, except stopping us from killing one another.)

Like the rest of us, I'm still stubbornly working on that percentage 

The bit that first attracted my attention was "The average life span and the life expectancy of the population shows a slight increase." 

I suppose I combined it with "While Roman individuals were less likely to have experienced violence in their lives and tended to live longer, they were also more likely to grapple with pathologies that included tooth loss, degenerative joints and spines, as well as sinusitis. It is not possible to say definitively if this increase in pathologies is directly linked to an increase in the average age of the population or due to physiological stress."

It just struck me that the increase in civilisation hardly seemed to be worth the effort.

Whether it's a statistic glitch, because women life expectancy didn't increase much?

Also another interesting comment was "Additionally, changes in status and prestige were also observed; in general, people of higher social standing received more food in life and grave goods in death. With this in mind, it was noted that Celtic artisans were taller and, therefore, better fed in life compared to their contemporaries. By contrast, Roman individuals gave higher regard to armed men who were generally taller and had more extensive grave goods."

If you just saw the last bit you would have assumed the Celts were the civilised peaceful ones and the Romans the violent ones 

Quote from: Andreas Johansson on October 17, 2024, 08:53:13 AM

Quote from: Jim Webster on October 16, 2024, 06:25:32 PMMore peaceful but you just died anyway of different things?

The proportion of people who die sticks stubbornly at 100% :p

Well, 99,99999999% if you hold with the Old Testament. 

Quote from: Jim Webster on October 17, 2024, 10:04:04 AM"With this in mind, it was noted that Celtic artisans were taller and, therefore, better fed in life compared to their contemporaries. By contrast, Roman individuals gave higher regard to armed men who were generally taller and had more extensive grave goods."

If you just saw the last bit you would have assumed the Celts were the civilised peaceful ones and the Romans the violent ones 

It was the Romans who called the Celts uncivilised barbarians.  The Celts may well have had a different view!