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Can you charge with a pavise?

Started by dwkay57, November 03, 2024, 08:34:15 AM

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dwkay57

I'm still steeped in WRG 5th terminology which is why a charge is "any move intended to result in hand-to-hand contact" (page 23), but accept that the rate at which troops close is dependent upon fighting style, especially those which relied on close formation coherence.

I can envisage how a front rank of pavise bearers backed by others with long spears can trundle (for want of a better word) into melee but I'm not sure it works for Persian Sparabara formations if the rear ranks were archers who would need to be at some point in time stationary to shoot (unless they were trying out as a Merry Man) and would require some form of ranging instruction to be shouted at the rear ranks.
David

stevenneate

So, in summary, you can amble or stroll into contact with a pavise, but no +1 for vigourously charging. Guess my Genoese crossbowmen won't need to be drawing their swords anytime soon?

dwkay57

Under my rules, it is something like that Steve. Sparabara infantry do get a bonus for charging but not as great as other types. However, they do get a high "point of impact volley" bonus which comes into effect if they are charged.
David

Erpingham

Quote from: stevenneate on December 24, 2024, 01:56:03 AMGuess my Genoese crossbowmen won't need to be drawing their swords anytime soon?

I would suggest that, if they have to draw their swords, something has gone wrong somewhere  :)

Imperial Dave

That reminds me of a mate of mine telling me when he was deployed to Iraq for desert shield/storm. He had a medical orderly in the hq field hospital

He said that he had been issued with a gun. He added that if he had to use it, things would have gone seriously wrong...!
Former Slingshot editor

DBS

Quote from: Imperial Dave on December 24, 2024, 10:45:40 AMHe said that he had been issued with a gun. He added that if he had to use it, things would have gone seriously wrong...!
Damn right. Presume either 9milly or SMG. The latter not useless, but the other consideration will be the level of... marksmanship... to be expected of non combat arms.  Same principle applies to earlier periods, accepting less of a concept of rear echelon troops.
David Stevens

Imperial Dave

Former Slingshot editor

Keraunos

HP?  I didn't know you could get guns by hire purchase  ;)

Mick Hession

I thought it was Hewlett Packard. If it's anything like their printers the gun would be really cheap but the bullets cost a fortune

Mark G

Quite a saucey gun to have though.

Very house of parliament

Imperial Dave

High power....

A solid but outdated gun even in the 90s
Former Slingshot editor